Department of Redundancies Department

We’ll give this to him: he’s persistent.

On the first day (today) that lawmakers can file bills for the 2013 session of the Texas Legislature, state Rep. Dan Flynn, R-Van, has proposed a bill — House Bill 49 — requiring public high school students to take a course on the U.S. Constitution. Seems reasonable? Of course — except that high schools already teach such a course: U.S. Government.

Flynn filed the same bill in 2011, and it went nowhere. Lawmakers didn’t seem to see much value in having school districts repeat something they already teach in another course (especially while Flynn and other legislators were voting to slash billions of dollars in funding for public education at the same time).

Flynn has also filed House Bill 51, which would bar local school districts from prohibiting the posting of the Ten Commandments “in a prominent location in a district classroom.” The same bill (filed by Flynn) also went nowhere last session. Perhaps Flynn should study up on the Constitution himself — especially the part about no government establishment of religion.

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15 Comments

  1. Posted November 14, 2012 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

    Lavonna, do you understand the concept of socialism? Do you genuinely believe our current system is best for the majority of people living here? Most importantly, do you care?

  2. Posted November 14, 2012 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

    Lavonna, do you understand the concept of socialism? Do you genuinely believe our current system is best for the majority of people living here? Most importantly, do you care?

  3. Posted November 13, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    You underestimate instruction in the Constitution in Texas curriculum. It’s required in 7th grade Texas history, 8th grade U.S. history, 10th grade world history, 11th grade U.S. history, and again in government. Additionally, it’s required review in 9th grade geography.

    Plus, Texas law already requires at least one day of instruction in the Constitution in every Social Studies class, on or around Constitution Day in September.

    If you want to win the ire of school administrators and TEA officials, as a teacher, give serious instruction in Constitutional issues, using the original document, the debates of the Philadelphia convention, and actual Supreme Court cases. Texas officials want the Constitution on a pedestal to be worshipped, and they get nervous when students actually analyze it and study it closely.

    May I have Rep. Flynn in class for a day or two?

  4. Breckenridge
    Posted November 13, 2012 at 12:05 am | Permalink

    Lavonna I am not a socialist, and I will tell you why I am not a socialist: I do not support nationalization (seizure) of private business by the government. And that is the core tenant of socialism – without it you cannot have a socialist society.

    Now onto Obama. He is several things – a liberal democrat, a somewhat arrogant intellectual, a president who has done a great job with foreign policy and at best a so-so job with domestic policy. But he is not a socialist, nor is he trying to turn America into a socialist nation. There have been no private business seizures during Obama’s time in office.

    Now a question for you: are you stupid every day or is today an exception?

  5. Posted November 12, 2012 at 11:54 pm | Permalink

    Lavonna….idiot

  6. Charles
    Posted November 12, 2012 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    Uh, Lavonna. I hate to have to correct your grammar, but I think you meant to say:

    “Yooz ones izz socialist.”

  7. Posted November 12, 2012 at 8:56 pm | Permalink

    If you folks look yup the communist USA party you will see every issue Obama made in his campaign on .. You guys are socialist !?!

    • andy_txn
      Posted November 12, 2012 at 10:49 pm | Permalink

      Lavonna if you look up Fascism you will see thge Republican party. Benito Mussolini said it best… “Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.”

    • Posted November 13, 2012 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

      But if you pay attention to communism, you’ll see that the classic Soviet version is quite opposed to much of what the Obama administration says and does, and much of the modern American agenda. Soviets were opposed to environmental protection, national parks, endangered species protection, independent unions with real collective bargaining ability, welfare payments and other care for the poor, free speech, free exercise of any religion (including non-religion like formal atheism, and also Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism, Islam, and Unitarian philosophy, along with Christianity), workers rights, education in the arts except for performers, etc., etc.

      Socialism in the classic von Mises/von Hayek definition is government control of the means of production. Obama didn’t even come close to that in any phase of Obamacare, which is regarded as the most nearly socialist part of what he’s actually done.

      Come to reality, please.

  8. Posted November 12, 2012 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    Schools dont need more money. They need to learn how to use it better. As a teacher I’ve seen the inefficiency of the public school system. Throwing money around isn’t going to solve any problems…get to the root of it before you start talking about funding.

  9. The Right Is Wrong
    Posted November 12, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    In addition to requiring all legislators to take a Govt 101 course, a good number of male Republican lawmakers need a refresher course in female physiology.

  10. Posted November 12, 2012 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    I think all legislators should be required to take a GOVERNMENT 101 course before taking office!

  11. Posted November 12, 2012 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    No one is opposed to a course on the Constitution, Richard. The point is that we already have one. Noting Flynn’s Ten Commandments bill simply points out that Flynn isn’t too clear about the Constitution himself.

  12. Posted November 12, 2012 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    I don’t really see the relevance of mentioning the Ten Commandments in an article against teaching a course on the constitution.

  13. Posted November 12, 2012 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    idiot

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