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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://tfninsider.org/2009/07/07/blacklisting-cesar-chavez/#comment-5100</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I assume from the statement below that Peter Marshall would not object to including Franklin&#039;s deism and &quot;diplomatic efforts&quot; with the women of France into the social studies textbooks as examples of behavior worthy of emulation? 

&quot;&#039;To have CÃ©sar ChÃ¡vez listed next to Ben Franklin is ludicrous,&#039;[Peter Marshall] said in his assessment.&#039;ChÃ¡vez is hardly the kind of role model that ought to be held up to our children as someone worthy of emulation.&#039;&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I assume from the statement below that Peter Marshall would not object to including Franklin&#8217;s deism and &#8220;diplomatic efforts&#8221; with the women of France into the social studies textbooks as examples of behavior worthy of emulation? </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;To have CÃ©sar ChÃ¡vez listed next to Ben Franklin is ludicrous,&#8217;[Peter Marshall] said in his assessment.&#8217;ChÃ¡vez is hardly the kind of role model that ought to be held up to our children as someone worthy of emulation.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jesus Justo Guerra</title>
		<link>http://tfninsider.org/2009/07/07/blacklisting-cesar-chavez/#comment-5063</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesus Justo Guerra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess the SBOE needs behavorial and social sciences  remediation.  Schools are for learning, and not to institutionalize pursuations of certain politicos who are&#039;s  in power.  Case in point, exsclusion of Cesar Chavez, migrant farm worker and union activist supposedly could not ever rise to the greatness of Ben Franklin&#039;s historical stature and should be struck out of social studies the State&#039;s TEKS, Texas Essentials of Knowledge and Skills, a required minimum standard for what is taught in Texas schools and is a state mandate for their curriculum alignment.  Well, I guess Jimmy Hoffa, the teamster union leader, with underworld implications must have had a greater stature then Cesar Chavez, because he has never been struck out of history books or banned from school libraries...for these so called conservatists whcih have nationally gain notoriety as the party of &quot;NO!&quot; to everything that has gotten this state and country into the mess we are in.  Wasn&#039;t realty takings enough for these marauders and looters who have been de-humanizing everything to self-serve themselves!!...eom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the SBOE needs behavorial and social sciences  remediation.  Schools are for learning, and not to institutionalize pursuations of certain politicos who are&#8217;s  in power.  Case in point, exsclusion of Cesar Chavez, migrant farm worker and union activist supposedly could not ever rise to the greatness of Ben Franklin&#8217;s historical stature and should be struck out of social studies the State&#8217;s TEKS, Texas Essentials of Knowledge and Skills, a required minimum standard for what is taught in Texas schools and is a state mandate for their curriculum alignment.  Well, I guess Jimmy Hoffa, the teamster union leader, with underworld implications must have had a greater stature then Cesar Chavez, because he has never been struck out of history books or banned from school libraries&#8230;for these so called conservatists whcih have nationally gain notoriety as the party of &#8220;NO!&#8221; to everything that has gotten this state and country into the mess we are in.  Wasn&#8217;t realty takings enough for these marauders and looters who have been de-humanizing everything to self-serve themselves!!&#8230;eom.</p>
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		<title>By: Aquaria</title>
		<link>http://tfninsider.org/2009/07/07/blacklisting-cesar-chavez/#comment-4834</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So Tired:

The problem is that most Texans don&#039;t think when they&#039;re in the voting booth. All they care about is if there&#039;s an (R) by the name, and it doesn&#039;t matter if the person is a sane (R), like Kay Bailey Hutchinson, or an insane power-hungry avaricious dominionist moron...like...oh...99% of TXGOP pols.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Tired:</p>
<p>The problem is that most Texans don&#8217;t think when they&#8217;re in the voting booth. All they care about is if there&#8217;s an (R) by the name, and it doesn&#8217;t matter if the person is a sane (R), like Kay Bailey Hutchinson, or an insane power-hungry avaricious dominionist moron&#8230;like&#8230;oh&#8230;99% of TXGOP pols.</p>
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		<title>By: So Tired of the SBOE</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[So Tired of the SBOE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[VOTE PEOPLE!!!!  These anti-educatio, anti-intellectual board members are voted on by Texans. If Texans choose to ignore the board elections than this is what happens.  So embarrassing.  Go to the TEA website and listen to these people speak during the state board meeting next week.  It&#039;s beyond absurd.  It&#039;s shameful! And hopefully it is motivating. Vote the ignorance off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VOTE PEOPLE!!!!  These anti-educatio, anti-intellectual board members are voted on by Texans. If Texans choose to ignore the board elections than this is what happens.  So embarrassing.  Go to the TEA website and listen to these people speak during the state board meeting next week.  It&#8217;s beyond absurd.  It&#8217;s shameful! And hopefully it is motivating. Vote the ignorance off.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://tfninsider.org/2009/07/07/blacklisting-cesar-chavez/#comment-4796</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know Darrell.  In what Voltaire called the &quot;...best of all possible worlds...&quot; I bet there would be a law like that in Texas.  Of course, in the best of all possible worlds, the radical right on the SBOE would have never been put on the SBOE.  Therefore, I doubt that such a law exists in Texas, and even if it did, I doubt that the powers that be would enforce it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know Darrell.  In what Voltaire called the &#8220;&#8230;best of all possible worlds&#8230;&#8221; I bet there would be a law like that in Texas.  Of course, in the best of all possible worlds, the radical right on the SBOE would have never been put on the SBOE.  Therefore, I doubt that such a law exists in Texas, and even if it did, I doubt that the powers that be would enforce it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Darrell</title>
		<link>http://tfninsider.org/2009/07/07/blacklisting-cesar-chavez/#comment-4795</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Darrell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 04:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So,if the draft reports were shared, is it possible to get copies of what was shared, for comparison&#039;s sake?  

Its funny that the conservative Long Knives complained about leaving songs out, and the current crop complains of too much of that stuff.  But since when do harpy critics need consistency?

I&#039;m also still interested in the membership of the curriculum writing teams.  The carpetbagger argument usually isn&#039;t a big one, but I&#039;ll wager the group had better chops than McLeroy&#039;s experts.  The original team included at least one professor of economics from a Texas university, I hear, and it would be likely several of the members had advanced degrees, in history, economics, and education.  

In short, they rejected Texas experts in return for amateur, biased non-Texans.  That&#039;s bad policy, and contrary to state law, I&#039;ll wager.  

Does Texas have a state equivalent of the federal Administrative Procedures Act?  You know, federal agencies can&#039;t be stupid like this, under the law.  They gotta follow certain rules, especially those rules that require listening to real experts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So,if the draft reports were shared, is it possible to get copies of what was shared, for comparison&#8217;s sake?  </p>
<p>Its funny that the conservative Long Knives complained about leaving songs out, and the current crop complains of too much of that stuff.  But since when do harpy critics need consistency?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also still interested in the membership of the curriculum writing teams.  The carpetbagger argument usually isn&#8217;t a big one, but I&#8217;ll wager the group had better chops than McLeroy&#8217;s experts.  The original team included at least one professor of economics from a Texas university, I hear, and it would be likely several of the members had advanced degrees, in history, economics, and education.  </p>
<p>In short, they rejected Texas experts in return for amateur, biased non-Texans.  That&#8217;s bad policy, and contrary to state law, I&#8217;ll wager.  </p>
<p>Does Texas have a state equivalent of the federal Administrative Procedures Act?  You know, federal agencies can&#8217;t be stupid like this, under the law.  They gotta follow certain rules, especially those rules that require listening to real experts.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://tfninsider.org/2009/07/07/blacklisting-cesar-chavez/#comment-4793</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TFN.  

I think what the conservatives are worried about are &quot;Das Kapital&quot; and the use of the word capitalism throughout Grouch Marx&#039;s &quot;Communist Manifesto.&quot;  They see &quot;capital&quot; as a nasty word that Groucho, Harpo, and Fred Engels invented to label and criticize the nice economic system that we all enjoy today.  However, I doubt that the word &quot;capital&quot; would ever come close to teeing up a kid  to &quot;go commie.&quot;  It&#039;s all I can do to get my kids to read a book like &quot;Holes,&quot; so I know they will not go anywhere near the 19th century works of the Marx Brothers---which are---like most treatises on economics---boring.  I nearly went to sleep reading the Communist Manifesto back in my college days, knowing full well that something that boring could never work.

By the way, in the small town where I grew up back in the 1960s, one of the local loan businesses was called Associates Capital, and I never saw in red hammer and sickle arm bands coming out of there.  Therefore, I figure the right wing social studies experts are...well...just plain nuts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TFN.  </p>
<p>I think what the conservatives are worried about are &#8220;Das Kapital&#8221; and the use of the word capitalism throughout Grouch Marx&#8217;s &#8220;Communist Manifesto.&#8221;  They see &#8220;capital&#8221; as a nasty word that Groucho, Harpo, and Fred Engels invented to label and criticize the nice economic system that we all enjoy today.  However, I doubt that the word &#8220;capital&#8221; would ever come close to teeing up a kid  to &#8220;go commie.&#8221;  It&#8217;s all I can do to get my kids to read a book like &#8220;Holes,&#8221; so I know they will not go anywhere near the 19th century works of the Marx Brothers&#8212;which are&#8212;like most treatises on economics&#8212;boring.  I nearly went to sleep reading the Communist Manifesto back in my college days, knowing full well that something that boring could never work.</p>
<p>By the way, in the small town where I grew up back in the 1960s, one of the local loan businesses was called Associates Capital, and I never saw in red hammer and sickle arm bands coming out of there.  Therefore, I figure the right wing social studies experts are&#8230;well&#8230;just plain nuts?</p>
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		<title>By: TFN</title>
		<link>http://tfninsider.org/2009/07/07/blacklisting-cesar-chavez/#comment-4791</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TFN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ed is right that social conservatives on the board objected to the use of the term &quot;capitalism&quot; in very early (and incomplete) drafts of the standards crafted by curriculum writing teams in the spring. Those board members argued that a state statute mandated instruction on the &quot;free enterprise system&quot; and that the term &quot;capitalism&quot; has a negative connotation. (Really.) The earlier report to which Ed is probably referring was the set of very preliminary, incomplete drafts from the writing teams (the drafts with &quot;capitalism&quot; instead of &quot;free enterprise&quot;). Don McLeroy turned those drafts over to a far-right group called the Texas Public Policy Foundation (founded by James Leininger, the &quot;sugar daddy&quot; of the religious right in Texas), which proceeded to do a hatchet job on the writing teams. TPPF claimed that the writing teams were leaving out important Americans, patriotic songs and other things from the standards. Conservatives pitched a hissy fit, but writing teams were not given an opportunity to defend themselves until much later. When members of the writing teams did finally have an opportunity to speak, they explained that the very preliminary work TPPF had seen was incomplete and should never have been shared with an outside group (especially, we might add, one with a political agenda). Moreover, the teachers and other members of the writing teams explained that they weren&#039;t eliminating important Americans and patriotic songs and symbols from the standards -- they were simply looking for the most appropriate places to include them in the K-12 curriculum. The bottom line is that the writing teams were ambushed by McLeroy and TPPF. It was shameful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed is right that social conservatives on the board objected to the use of the term &#8220;capitalism&#8221; in very early (and incomplete) drafts of the standards crafted by curriculum writing teams in the spring. Those board members argued that a state statute mandated instruction on the &#8220;free enterprise system&#8221; and that the term &#8220;capitalism&#8221; has a negative connotation. (Really.) The earlier report to which Ed is probably referring was the set of very preliminary, incomplete drafts from the writing teams (the drafts with &#8220;capitalism&#8221; instead of &#8220;free enterprise&#8221;). Don McLeroy turned those drafts over to a far-right group called the Texas Public Policy Foundation (founded by James Leininger, the &#8220;sugar daddy&#8221; of the religious right in Texas), which proceeded to do a hatchet job on the writing teams. TPPF claimed that the writing teams were leaving out important Americans, patriotic songs and other things from the standards. Conservatives pitched a hissy fit, but writing teams were not given an opportunity to defend themselves until much later. When members of the writing teams did finally have an opportunity to speak, they explained that the very preliminary work TPPF had seen was incomplete and should never have been shared with an outside group (especially, we might add, one with a political agenda). Moreover, the teachers and other members of the writing teams explained that they weren&#8217;t eliminating important Americans and patriotic songs and symbols from the standards &#8212; they were simply looking for the most appropriate places to include them in the K-12 curriculum. The bottom line is that the writing teams were ambushed by McLeroy and TPPF. It was shameful.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Darrell</title>
		<link>http://tfninsider.org/2009/07/07/blacklisting-cesar-chavez/#comment-4790</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Darrell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There was a panel of Texas social studies teachers and experts that issued a report earlier, about March or April.  Where is that report?  

Why are Texas experts ignored in this process, especially those Texans who specialize in getting our kids educated and into colleges or jobs once they graduate?  

But especially, I&#039;d like to see the comparison.  On good authority, I hear that McLeroy rejected the report prepared by Texans because they named the economic system of the U.S. &quot;capitalism.&quot;  Can you imagine?  The teachers (and college professors) proposed that we teach our kids the name of the economic system we use, using the same terminology as real economists -- and the SBOE found that objectionable.

I want to compare that report with the drivel and non-drivel in this current round.

And, Rick Perry?  You listining?  I want to know why your guys have it in for capitalism.  The alternatives are not pretty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a panel of Texas social studies teachers and experts that issued a report earlier, about March or April.  Where is that report?  </p>
<p>Why are Texas experts ignored in this process, especially those Texans who specialize in getting our kids educated and into colleges or jobs once they graduate?  </p>
<p>But especially, I&#8217;d like to see the comparison.  On good authority, I hear that McLeroy rejected the report prepared by Texans because they named the economic system of the U.S. &#8220;capitalism.&#8221;  Can you imagine?  The teachers (and college professors) proposed that we teach our kids the name of the economic system we use, using the same terminology as real economists &#8212; and the SBOE found that objectionable.</p>
<p>I want to compare that report with the drivel and non-drivel in this current round.</p>
<p>And, Rick Perry?  You listining?  I want to know why your guys have it in for capitalism.  The alternatives are not pretty.</p>
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		<title>By: Coragyps</title>
		<link>http://tfninsider.org/2009/07/07/blacklisting-cesar-chavez/#comment-4789</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coragyps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris - very perceptive comment on the two-faced behavior of these fine scholars. Their noses need frequent rubbing in observations like that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &#8211; very perceptive comment on the two-faced behavior of these fine scholars. Their noses need frequent rubbing in observations like that.</p>
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