Comments on: Live Blogging: Texas SBOE Science Debate http://tfninsider.org/2009/01/22/texas-sboe-science-debate/ The Official Blog of the Texas Freedom Network Sun, 20 May 2012 18:15:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Wood Gas http://tfninsider.org/2009/01/22/texas-sboe-science-debate/#comment-675 Wood Gas Sat, 16 Apr 2011 14:10:39 +0000 http://tfnblog.wordpress.com/?p=1348#comment-675 I've re-written history with my armies and my crooks Invented memories and burned all the books Thanks to Marl Knophler I’ve re-written history
with my armies and my crooks
Invented memories
and burned all the books

Thanks to Marl Knophler

]]> By: Ben http://tfninsider.org/2009/01/22/texas-sboe-science-debate/#comment-674 Ben Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:24:50 +0000 http://tfnblog.wordpress.com/?p=1348#comment-674 Okay, elias, thanks. Got any actual evidence to support any of your rantings? Yeah, I didn't think so. Move along. Okay, elias, thanks. Got any actual evidence to support any of your rantings?

Yeah, I didn’t think so.

Move along.

]]> By: internet elias http://tfninsider.org/2009/01/22/texas-sboe-science-debate/#comment-673 internet elias Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:33:50 +0000 http://tfnblog.wordpress.com/?p=1348#comment-673 Man says one thing…yadda, yadda, yadda. And God says another thing. As for me, I choose God’s explanation. Man’s interpretations of what God meant by what He said are so cute….so lacking in wisdom…..and so narrow ...intellectually. About evolution, monkey’s don’t discuss God’s cosmic plans at the Tree of Knowledge. Monkeys don’t cloth themselves with leaf garments to cover their nakedness. Monkeys don’t till the soil. Monkeys don’t name their offspring e.g. Cain, Abel, Seth. Monkeys don’t bring a sacrifice of the best of the flock….as did Abel. Monkeys don’t grow beautiful fruit and veggies….then bring an offering of those fruits to God…….as did Cain. And monkeys don’t have eternal souls. Anyone who thinks nuclear fission, fusion, and the innumerable other atomic realities…….just happen………has to be a le-e-e-e-tle‘teched’ in the head. Come on! The slowing and coming death of the cosmos by way of expansion, the slowing and coming death of the physical body by way of expansion of years (age), the slowing and coming death of Satan’s evil by way of God’s allowed expansion/growth/prevalence of it practice in the world, and most important of all…..the well prophesied….seeming slowing and death by way of expansion of the Gospel of God and His Christ …..is clear proof of intelligent design by God…(Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached as a witness to all nations….then the end will come). My goodness, everything in the Bible has a clear and simple scientific explanation. For example, the gathering of the church…the going up to meet Jesus in the clouds has a simple scienctific answer. God’s ‘above the natural’ powers simple override the ‘natural’ law of gravity. With gravity neutralized…….swoosssh….up we go! God is the most practiced scientist ever known to man. Everything He uses to manifest realities of His nature and existance…..is ‘natural’ things. Light is necessary for Life (nothing on earth grows without light). Without Light (God in the soul of the believer) there is only darkness and nothing to sustain life (heart of the unbeliever is Dead). Water is necessary for Life (nothing survives without water). The demons cast out of the man among the tombs..begged Christ, “don’t send us back to the dry places. Let us go into the swine.” Christ had pity on them and allowed them to possess the herd of swine. So…where did the demons drive the herd of swine? Straight into the water. Even the demons hate their own existance…..the dark place with no light, water, nor life. Thus the reference by God concerning the demise of the Dead souls who reject the gift of life for the soul….’they’ll be cast into outer DARKNESS.” God’s ’scientific’ mind (:eyes rolled upward/smirky smile created light/darkess…one to reveal the other. He made male/female, good/evil, give/receive, rich/poor, hot/cold, life/death, love/hate, winter/summer, fall/spring, desert/wetland, mountain/plain, and so forth…so forth..you get the picture. So I just can’t buy that I have to wait for mortal scientists to tell me about the cosmos, the physical/spirit man, the past/present/future of our earth and heavens. What so mesmerizes me about the Word (Bible) is that it does tell me everything I so deeply desire to know. I want to know why God, why Satan, why the cosmos, why me, why others, why events of history, why events of today, why politics, why differing views, why wisdom/ignorance, why negative/positive infinity, why positive/negative anything, why disease/health, why joy/misery, why spiritual warfare in high places, and what are the limits and potential of man? Wow, wow, wow! I get the answers to all of that from the author of the Book. He’s the only one who knows what he meant by what he said. And He shares that intent with ME! SCIENCE…SCIENTISTS…THEORY OF EVOLUTION…is not worth the time it takes to study its findings. Any person who truly has an expanded mind, an intelligent mind to comprehend the immensity of our universe and world……can only come to a single conclusion….INTELLIGENT DESIGN! Those men of science who conclude for some accidental, happenstance, spontaneous, flukey, progressive development of something as magnificent and man and his universe……are deliberately and dangerously ignorant. Those who accept their conclusions without even the effort to ’search to see whether those things be true’ are equally dangerously and deliberately…ignorant. Man says one thing…yadda, yadda, yadda. And God says another thing. As for me, I choose God’s explanation. Man’s interpretations of what God meant by what He said are so cute….so lacking in wisdom…..and so narrow …intellectually. About evolution, monkey’s don’t discuss God’s cosmic plans at the Tree of Knowledge. Monkeys don’t cloth themselves with leaf garments to cover their nakedness. Monkeys don’t till the soil. Monkeys don’t name their offspring e.g. Cain, Abel, Seth. Monkeys don’t bring a sacrifice of the best of the flock….as did Abel. Monkeys don’t grow beautiful fruit and veggies….then bring an offering of those fruits to God…….as did Cain. And monkeys don’t have eternal souls. Anyone who thinks nuclear fission, fusion, and the innumerable other atomic realities…….just happen………has to be a le-e-e-e-tle‘teched’ in the head. Come on! The slowing and coming death of the cosmos by way of expansion, the slowing and coming death of the physical body by way of expansion of years (age), the slowing and coming death of Satan’s evil by way of God’s allowed expansion/growth/prevalence of it practice in the world, and most important of all…..the well prophesied….seeming slowing and death by way of expansion of the Gospel of God and His Christ …..is clear proof of intelligent design by God…(Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached as a witness to all nations….then the end will come). My goodness, everything in the Bible has a clear and simple scientific explanation. For example, the gathering of the church…the going up to meet Jesus in the clouds has a simple scienctific answer. God’s ‘above the natural’ powers simple override the ‘natural’ law of gravity. With gravity neutralized…….swoosssh….up we go! God is the most practiced scientist ever known to man. Everything He uses to manifest realities of His nature and existance…..is ‘natural’ things. Light is necessary for Life (nothing on earth grows without light). Without Light (God in the soul of the believer) there is only darkness and nothing to sustain life (heart of the unbeliever is Dead). Water is necessary for Life (nothing survives without water). The demons cast out of the man among the tombs..begged Christ, “don’t send us back to the dry places. Let us go into the swine.” Christ had pity on them and allowed them to possess the herd of swine. So…where did the demons drive the herd of swine? Straight into the water. Even the demons hate their own existance…..the dark place with no light, water, nor life. Thus the reference by God concerning the demise of the Dead souls who reject the gift of life for the soul….’they’ll be cast into outer DARKNESS.” God’s ’scientific’ mind (:eyes rolled upward/smirky smile created light/darkess…one to reveal the other. He made male/female, good/evil, give/receive, rich/poor, hot/cold, life/death, love/hate, winter/summer, fall/spring, desert/wetland, mountain/plain, and so forth…so forth..you get the picture. So I just can’t buy that I have to wait for mortal scientists to tell me about the cosmos, the physical/spirit man, the past/present/future of our earth and heavens. What so mesmerizes me about the Word (Bible) is that it does tell me everything I so deeply desire to know. I want to know why God, why Satan, why the cosmos, why me, why others, why events of history, why events of today, why politics, why differing views, why wisdom/ignorance, why negative/positive infinity, why positive/negative anything, why disease/health, why joy/misery, why spiritual warfare in high places, and what are the limits and potential of man? Wow, wow, wow! I get the answers to all of that from the author of the Book. He’s the only one who knows what he meant by what he said. And He shares that intent with ME! SCIENCE…SCIENTISTS…THEORY OF EVOLUTION…is not worth the time it takes to study its findings. Any person who truly has an expanded mind, an intelligent mind to comprehend the immensity of our universe and world……can only come to a single conclusion….INTELLIGENT DESIGN! Those men of science who conclude for some accidental, happenstance, spontaneous, flukey, progressive development of something as magnificent and man and his universe……are deliberately and dangerously ignorant. Those who accept their conclusions without even the effort to ’search to see whether those things be true’ are equally dangerously and deliberately…ignorant.

]]> By: Texas SBOE on Science Standards January 22, 2009 (Audio) « Tony’s curricublog http://tfninsider.org/2009/01/22/texas-sboe-science-debate/#comment-672 Texas SBOE on Science Standards January 22, 2009 (Audio) « Tony’s curricublog Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:39:32 +0000 http://tfnblog.wordpress.com/?p=1348#comment-672 [...] reading the live blogs here, here, and here, I figured I would skip Thursday hearings. I’ve been persuaded, though, that these [...] [...] reading the live blogs here, here, and here, I figured I would skip Thursday hearings. I’ve been persuaded, though, that these [...]

]]> By: Tony Whitson http://tfninsider.org/2009/01/22/texas-sboe-science-debate/#comment-671 Tony Whitson Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:13:11 +0000 http://tfnblog.wordpress.com/?p=1348#comment-671 I have the Behe paragraph posted (not quotemined) now at http://curricublog.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/behe-says-common-descent-is-tru/ I have the Behe paragraph posted (not quotemined) now at
http://curricublog.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/behe-says-common-descent-is-tru/

]]> By: Behe: “Common descent is true” (re: Texas TEKS science standards on evolution) « Tony’s curricublog http://tfninsider.org/2009/01/22/texas-sboe-science-debate/#comment-670 Behe: “Common descent is true” (re: Texas TEKS science standards on evolution) « Tony’s curricublog Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:46:08 +0000 http://tfnblog.wordpress.com/?p=1348#comment-670 [...] is true” (re: Texas TEKS science standards on evolution) I have just read this on the TFN live blog from yesterday’s session of the Texas State Board of Education (SBOE): 4:23 - McLeroy wants to amend the section on biology [...] [...] is true” (re: Texas TEKS science standards on evolution) I have just read this on the TFN live blog from yesterday’s session of the Texas State Board of Education (SBOE): 4:23 – McLeroy wants to amend the section on biology [...]

]]> By: Tony Whitson http://tfninsider.org/2009/01/22/texas-sboe-science-debate/#comment-669 Tony Whitson Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:46:38 +0000 http://tfnblog.wordpress.com/?p=1348#comment-669 Even Behe concedes (in Edge of Evolution) that common descent is a virtual certainty. Even Behe concedes (in Edge of Evolution) that common descent is a virtual certainty.

]]> By: bgood http://tfninsider.org/2009/01/22/texas-sboe-science-debate/#comment-668 bgood Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:43:24 +0000 http://tfnblog.wordpress.com/?p=1348#comment-668 Be ready for a March Surprise! This is what happened last year with the English Language Arts and Reading (ELAR) TEKS; claims by these same folks that the process had been hijacked--by the teacher workgroups! In fact, many ELAR teachers are having deja vu. Cargill made the same exact claim about certain members of the teacher workgroups not being heard--the ones she agreed with, that is. The Malevolent 7 played all sorts of tricks over the three-year debacle of the ELAR TEKS. And what did they vote for? A set of standards that Cargill and Lowe patched together THE NIGHT BEFORE the final vote and slipped under the doors of board member the following morning before the final vote. Should I mention that those TEKS were never seen by the public until that final vote? Watch Mr. Agusto carefully. He was very supportive of the ELAR teachers of Texas and the workgroup-authored standards, until he voted against them in the final vote. And get ready history teachers of Texas! Your turn to be scoffed at and ignored is coming soon! If anyone knows that those who forget history are doomed to repeat it, it should be you. Be ready for a March Surprise! This is what happened last year with the English Language Arts and Reading (ELAR) TEKS; claims by these same folks that the process had been hijacked–by the teacher workgroups! In fact, many ELAR teachers are having deja vu. Cargill made the same exact claim about certain members of the teacher workgroups not being heard–the ones she agreed with, that is.

The Malevolent 7 played all sorts of tricks over the three-year debacle of the ELAR TEKS. And what did they vote for? A set of standards that Cargill and Lowe patched together THE NIGHT BEFORE the final vote and slipped under the doors of board member the following morning before the final vote. Should I mention that those TEKS were never seen by the public until that final vote?

Watch Mr. Agusto carefully. He was very supportive of the ELAR teachers of Texas and the workgroup-authored standards, until he voted against them in the final vote.

And get ready history teachers of Texas! Your turn to be scoffed at and ignored is coming soon! If anyone knows that those who forget history are doomed to repeat it, it should be you.

]]> By: Texas school board anti-evolutionists lose « BaptistPlanet http://tfninsider.org/2009/01/22/texas-sboe-science-debate/#comment-667 Texas school board anti-evolutionists lose « BaptistPlanet Fri, 23 Jan 2009 07:56:21 +0000 http://tfnblog.wordpress.com/?p=1348#comment-667 [...] Miller, president of the watchdog group Texas Freedom Network (which live-blogs the debate here), has argued that the word weaknesses “has become a code word in the culture wars to attack [...] [...] Miller, president of the watchdog group Texas Freedom Network (which live-blogs the debate here), has argued that the word weaknesses “has become a code word in the culture wars to attack [...]

]]> By: jdg http://tfninsider.org/2009/01/22/texas-sboe-science-debate/#comment-666 jdg Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:24:36 +0000 http://tfnblog.wordpress.com/?p=1348#comment-666 Well, I guess we got a 50-50 split? S&W is out, but evidences against common descent is in? I can deal with any question about S&W and common descent. The evidences against is just creationism complaints. I'll just deal with it I guess. Well, I guess we got a 50-50 split? S&W is out, but evidences against common descent is in? I can deal with any question about S&W and common descent. The evidences against is just creationism complaints. I’ll just deal with it I guess.

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